Discuss the first stage instructions

[Adam]

I would really appreciate comments, suggestions and questions from you guys as I write the first stage instructions, but I want to keep that thread clear of replies and comments so that it reads linearly. So instead of posting there, if you notice any errors or have any questions about the instructions I've written, feel free to post here.

Thanks for your help.

 

[smithvmi]

Adam,

I just wanted to commend you on how clearly you've managed to lay this all out. It's one thing to be mechanically inclined, but you're also doing a great job of conveying the process for those of us who don't have a lot of prior experience. I feel like studying this prior to starting the project will really help me out. Keep it up.

 

[Johvans]

Hi Adam,

Is it possible to host the assembly pictures somewhere else? I am able to see Lonny's photo's fine, but can't see the ones in the assembly thread. Is there a plan to print these off and send them with the kits?

John

 

[TomsGarage]

+1 on a printed plan. Also, do you have the image files for the wiring harness? I remember you had something printed out that you could lay the wiring harness on.

Another thing, seems like the pictures on the blog portion of the site are dead.

 

[Adam]

Hi Adam,

Is it possible to host the assembly pictures somewhere else? I am able to see Lonny's photo's fine, but can't see the ones in the assembly thread. Is there a plan to print these off and send them with the kits?

John

What device are you using? I can see the assembly thread photos on all of our devices, through our shop's ISP and our phone network. It's weird that you can't see the images because they are hosted publicly on imgur.com.

The trouble with doing a printed instruction manual is that the instructions are incomplete and not set in stone.

I remember you had something printed out that you could lay the wiring harness on.

Another thing, seems like the pictures on the blog portion of the site are dead.

Here's the link to the large image: Main Harness Map.

I've removed the news/blog section of the website. It wasn't easy to post to so I would rather do it here on the forum. Speaking of which, I haven't been doing a good job of posting status updates so I'll start again today. I plan to also add a list of the frames being built and the status of each.

 

[Johvans]

What device are you using? I can see the assembly thread photos on all of our devices, through our shop's ISP and our phone network. It's weird that you can't see the images because they are hosted publicly on imgur.com.

The trouble with doing a printed instruction manual is that the instructions are incomplete and not set in stone.

It's probably a work filter... just thought it was weird I could see Lonny's pictures and not these.

Here's the link to the large image: Main Harness Map.

I've removed the news/blog section of the website. It wasn't easy to post to so I would rather do it here on the forum. Speaking of which, I haven't been doing a good job of posting status updates so I'll start again today. I plan to also add a list of the frames being built and the status of each.

I love the idea of a status list!!

 

[RichN]

I plan to also add a list of the frames being built and the status of each.

I love the idea too. I think I will be picking up mine after stage 2 is ready but before the body panels are done. It shouldn't be too expensive to ship the panels.

 

[DanPerryy]

I would create separate 1st stage build threads for:
Wiring Harness
Front End - Steering, Pedal Box, (etc)
Rear End -

It is a bit hard to scroll down to the part you are working on
For the wiring Harness put the links to the lists on the first thread post

 

[BAR-AIR]

Good Evening,
Adam and crew are working very hard to put out the best final product they can -which is awesome-. The down side to that is the assembly manual is in flux (everyone that is building right now is ahead of the building curve). The easiest way I have found so far is to make a complete copy of the assembly manual (parts of it are changing already which is to be expected). It makes it a lot easier then scrolling back and forth on the computer screen. Then you can make your own notes and eventually send them back to Adam to help improve the final draft of an assembly manual for the Goblin.
Bruce

 

[Swift06]

I don't think this part of the harness is necessary, but I just want to confirm before I cut it out:

From a SS/SC. If the image doesn't upload, it looks like an information button and an enter button. Five wires: Green w/ white stripe, gray, black, red, black w/ white stripe (ground).

 

[Adam]

On later model Cobalts these buttons are on the steering wheel. You won't use the buttons but you should keep the wires so that you can control the display on your instrument panel. You'll want to run these wires up to the instrument panel with the hazard lights and horn wires.

 

[Swift06]

Another question: What is this computer? The plugs are part of the dash harness, and the computer tucks behind the dash, next to the driver door and windshield. Do I need this?

http://imgur.com/NNYDl6J

http://imgur.com/H0rFzSN

 

[Adam]

The spikey computer has something to do with the stereo system. The base model donors we've stripped haven't had that but our turbo SS donor did. You will not need it.

 

[Swift06]

Do we remove the ABS module wiring, speed sensor wires, etc? I didn't see anything about ABS in general, but the front hubs don't have a wheel speed sensor wire going to them, so I assume it's out?

 

[Swift06]

Sorry for all the questions. If there's a more appropriate thread to put them in, I'll do that.

What's this plug? The shiny blue wire has already been cut and was once part of the passenger door. Can I cut the rest?

 

[Adam]

We haven't attempted to use ABS on any of our cars. To get it working you'd have to do some work because the front wheel sensors are now at the rear and since we run different sized tires front to rear, the speed sensors would constantly see them travelling different speeds and would probably act up.

That plug goes to the stereo head unit.

 

[Swift06]

In the main harness trim guide, the third brake light needs a resistor. My donor is gone, so I can't measure the resistance of the third brake light itself to know how much resistance it needs. Can anyone measure theirs and report back?

 

[Swift06]

Is the ambient light sensor essential? I clipped it :/

Also in the instructions, it says to clip fuel pump wires except gray, purple and tan. I have an '05 SS donor and all of these wires go to the pump, fuel level unit and an evap pressure sensor. The pumps have got to be different because I have two gray wires as well. The clipped wires to the right were evap.

 

[Adam]

You'll keep the larger gray wire and remove the smaller one.

 

[Swift06]

I'm starting to splice the main and dash harnesses together and I've got issues. When you guys combine the harnesses, did you have a different number of wires on each side of the connector?

The diagram is looking at the connectors from the back so that the wires are right in front of you. Pencil is what each side has regarding wires, and red is what's wrong, plus a symbol for what the opposite side to make it less confusing.. From the top diagram (dash side) I'll just list my problems. Orange/black isn't even on the main side of the harness. I still have a dark green wire (goes to OBDII, or the grey junction close to it?), but not on the main side. I have a Tan/black and Tan still on the dash side, but not the main side.

X=cut
O=not cut on the opposite side
N/A=empty port