Just got a call from Jacksonville regional DMV. The body kit is not NFTSA approved so I can not get a tittle. Talked to Adam at DF. He is in talks with NFTSA to get the language explained correctly in order to correct this issue. The supervisor did say he found a goblin in the system and that the tittle was being recalled. I do not know who he would not tell me.
All FL owners and future owners !!!!!
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jamesm
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I'd be really surprised if they had an actual list of "approved" kits. I can't imagine any agency that would want that much overhead.
Per this and this, I could see possibly needing some more documentation from DF, but I'm not seeing anything that would preclude titling and licensing a goblin as a kit car in Florida. If they don't want to title it as a "kit car" due to it not being a re-body type kit, there's a provision for an "assembled from parts" in the statue.
Per this and this, I could see possibly needing some more documentation from DF, but I'm not seeing anything that would preclude titling and licensing a goblin as a kit car in Florida. If they don't want to title it as a "kit car" due to it not being a re-body type kit, there's a provision for an "assembled from parts" in the statue.
Zoom Zoom
Goblin Guru
They allow dune buggies that are tube framed, I just don’t get there reasoning.
Rttoys
Goblin Guru
They never have reasoning.
When we (Texas) was going through all this, we got the same run around. A home built car is dangerous, but a homebuilt motorcycle is fine??? (Just an example).
Even now, if you submit pictures of a “naked” goblin, it’s a dune buggy. If you add the hood, it’s a car.
The Jacksonville office didn’t even know what to do. The supervisor called Ocala and the supervisor there told him no. I am going to call him Monday and ask for some kind of documentation that says it has to meet that standard. Also I am going to call the guy down in west palm that deals with kit cars and maybe he can give the Jacksonville office some “training”
jamesm
Goblin Guru
Do your research and have your documentation ready when you call. In my experience dealing with government agencies, confidence goes a long way. Saying "No" is how those folks deal with the "out of the norm" stuff because it's safer for them. If you have the state checklists and all the documentation ready, they are far more likely to help you.
I.e. "Pursuant to Section x.y.z, I'm submitting this application for a motor vehicle title. Per x.y.z, here are the required documents..."
I.e. "Pursuant to Section x.y.z, I'm submitting this application for a motor vehicle title. Per x.y.z, here are the required documents..."
I followed another members package that was approved here in the state of FL. The supervisor was impressed on how through my package was and all the information I had was adequate. He said if it was an approved “body kit” it he would have no problem giving it a tittle.
jamesm
Goblin Guru
I’d definitely ask for clarification on that. I’m not a lawyer by any means, but I’m not seeing anything in the statues that mention an “approved” list.
Desert Sasqwatch
Goblin Guru
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Up my original docs on Monday, sad thing is I waited 10 weeks for them to tell me no. I am going to nicely ask where it states that it is required. I have looked all over the place and can’t find anything.
Just to be sure, you had the body panels on in the pictures? Hood, side panels? I could see if the paperwork was filed as a “kit car” that it’s not approved because NHTSA specifies a kit car as a vehicles with a body that resembles a 25 years or older vehicle which the goblin resembles nothing. But the “Assembled from parts” section doesn’t specify anything regarding the body of the vehicle and as such it shouldn’t be rejected at all. On your forms (believe there are 3 total) did you have “kit car” checked or “ASPT” checked?
JPas914
Well-Known Member
TL-41 was the procedure I had followed. Mine wasn’t even fully wrapped in my submission pictures. The only time I spoke with my local DMV was just to explain that I was registering a kit car and to get the number/contact info for the compliance office that would be inspecting the car. Hopefully it’s not my title that’s getting recalled.
CaptFrank2001
Goblin Guru
This is VERY BAD news. I just mailed my paperwork to Tallahassee on the 9th and I am waiting on a response. CRAP !!
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