MisterDave's - Ext. city Goblin - 09 SS/TC donor
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MisterDave
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Black Magic Tire Wet
Ark :D
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I had a hard time doing this as well. My best advice is, take very seriously how you prep the end of the hose for pulling. A few points:
1. Cut as little of the hose away as possible while securing it around your pulling device. The less hose that's present there, the less hose is available to take the strain of being pulled through the frame. If there's too little there, it'll just snap right off rather than hold.
2. Once your pulling device is in the end of the hose, use four, five, eight zip ties between the end of the hose and further in. The more zip ties, the merrier, within limits of course. I only used two on my first couple of attempts, then I got real about it and used five.
3. It helps to warm the hose a bit before pulling. On my three failed attempts, I did nothing. On the successful attempt, I left the hose lay in the sun for a half-hour or so before prepping/pulling. It may have made no difference, or it may have made all the difference.
4. Don't conserve your Tire Wet. Between my fails and my success, I used an entire spray bottle and yes, it made a mess. But you know what? I had a mess, AND had two hoses pulled through my frame, so it is what it is.
I think point #1 above is the most important, but, a combination of everything above got me some success.
https://dfkitcar.com/forum/index.php?threads/arks-city-goblin-2008-ss-tc-donor.1301/page-11#post-26825
1. Cut as little of the hose away as possible while securing it around your pulling device. The less hose that's present there, the less hose is available to take the strain of being pulled through the frame. If there's too little there, it'll just snap right off rather than hold.
2. Once your pulling device is in the end of the hose, use four, five, eight zip ties between the end of the hose and further in. The more zip ties, the merrier, within limits of course. I only used two on my first couple of attempts, then I got real about it and used five.
3. It helps to warm the hose a bit before pulling. On my three failed attempts, I did nothing. On the successful attempt, I left the hose lay in the sun for a half-hour or so before prepping/pulling. It may have made no difference, or it may have made all the difference.
4. Don't conserve your Tire Wet. Between my fails and my success, I used an entire spray bottle and yes, it made a mess. But you know what? I had a mess, AND had two hoses pulled through my frame, so it is what it is.
I think point #1 above is the most important, but, a combination of everything above got me some success.
https://dfkitcar.com/forum/index.php?threads/arks-city-goblin-2008-ss-tc-donor.1301/page-11#post-26825
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Waterdriver
Goblin Guru
Have you prepped the inside of the chassis tube that your pulling the hose through prior to your attempt?
MisterDave
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I sprayed a lot of tire wet down the tube so it would run down the tube, but I didn’t do the paint roller that they did in the video. I just went out and got a roller today to see if I can get more tire wet coating the tube.
Waterdriver
Goblin Guru
That'll make all the difference. That tube requires to be pre wet on all sides of the bore, the full length.
MisterDave
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So I gave it another try. This time the hose almost made it all the way and then the hose broke. On the plus side I have figured out a method for pulling it out. My frame is up side down. I sit down and brace my feet against the frame and pull the hose... then my son can step on the hose between the frame and my hands and it comes out smooth.
Now I’m worried I won’t have enough hose. Can I just buy this same hose at a local parts store?
Now I’m worried I won’t have enough hose. Can I just buy this same hose at a local parts store?
Ark :D
Goblin Guru
Don't give up, you'll get it. I almost gave up, but I'm glad I didn't.
You can get more hose easily if you need to. DF sends enough extra hose that you can screw up quite a few times and still have enough. I failed on three pulls, and I still had over a foot left over after I got it pulled.
You can get more hose easily if you need to. DF sends enough extra hose that you can screw up quite a few times and still have enough. I failed on three pulls, and I still had over a foot left over after I got it pulled.
MisterDave
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Well, I'm on my third fail... The only thing I can figure is that it's too cold. My garage isn't heated and we were mid 40s outside. I might have to pack it up and wait for warmer days. My garage floor is like a slip and slide after that last try
. Hopefully that tire wet doesn't effect the powder coat. I tried to get most of it off, but I'm sure I missed something.
. Hopefully that tire wet doesn't effect the powder coat. I tried to get most of it off, but I'm sure I missed something.
Karter2026
Goblin Guru
Wait for the wife to go to the store then put it in the dryer
My ex came home to find 2 go kart tires in the oven one day. It could have something to do with her being my ex
Ross
Goblin Guru
I used radiator hose from the local auto store... they only had 8', so I had to buy another 8' from a different store. Now I have 2 different brands of hose, but it works just fine. I measured the frame and hoses, the smaller one was easier to pull. Heating the hose only works if your frame isn't 40F... you need to heat everything. Open the inside garage door, put a fan in the door, and give it a few hours for the house furnace to heat the garage. Plug in a spare heater, borrow a friends heater... You only need a half day of heat.
MisterDave
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Just a quick update:
Wiring: I just finished video 6 of the wiring. Those instructions on the video are excellent.
Frame: I've decided to wait for warmer weather to try to get the hoses pulled. So the frame sits... upside down... for a bit longer.
Engine: I put on the smaller serpentine belt to eliminate the ac. I remove the AC and AC lines.
Question: Do you just leave those two plugs for the ac or do you thin them from the engine wiring?
Wiring: I just finished video 6 of the wiring. Those instructions on the video are excellent.
Frame: I've decided to wait for warmer weather to try to get the hoses pulled. So the frame sits... upside down... for a bit longer.
Engine: I put on the smaller serpentine belt to eliminate the ac. I remove the AC and AC lines.
Question: Do you just leave those two plugs for the ac or do you thin them from the engine wiring?
Ark :D
Goblin Guru
I'm glad you asked that question, I've been wondering what I should do with the AC plugs, myself.
Briann1177
Goblin Guru
The A/C plugs aren't used for anything. You can do whatever your heart desires with them.
Karter2026
Goblin Guru
I pulled the harness apart and trimmed them back to the main plug at the engine harness.
MisterDave
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Finished video 8 on wiring.
now I’m looking at the parts prep video where they prep the engine.
Is this the evap valve? I should remove this?
Also, my coolant hose that went to the overflow tank goes to a T. In the video looks like the tank it off the engine. Should I just remove it at the T junction?
now I’m looking at the parts prep video where they prep the engine.
Is this the evap valve? I should remove this?
Also, my coolant hose that went to the overflow tank goes to a T. In the video looks like the tank it off the engine. Should I just remove it at the T junction?
MisterDave
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I managed to trace the MAF sensor wires to the other side of the engine. I just have to tape it up now. Trying to follow the video with engine prep... the video says to tape up the speed sensor wire. I looked for that wire where it was in the video, but I don’t see it on my engine. Do I need to do this step on the turbo engine?