Peregrinus
Well-Known Member
Hey guys, finally finished the goblin but having an issue with no cranking.
What I know:
Grounds are good, I checked resistance to all grounds and ground points I could get to easily from the battery, Every thing read 1.5 or under.
Starter with jumped terminals spins.
Fuses are good, relays are good
Gauges all work as expected except I do have a code for high fuel sensor voltage.
Blinkers horn and accessory buttons and all that all work as expected.
Powers on, when turning key to crank I get nothing except the lights dim slightly
Starter signal wire does not receive 12v as it's suppose to, if I jump 12v from the battery directly to the signal terminal it cranks instantly.
I'm assuming this is a sensor issue, I tried jumping each clutch switch individually and together to no avail.
I have power through the crank 30a fuse and up to the crank relay in the fuse box, but it never goes from there to the purple signal wire.
I found a website which listed voltages and stuff to check for starter, and I checked it all, as I said above signal wire has no 12v, fuses for it are good, and relay is good, I tried swapping anyway to be sure, no change.
1)purple wire on the starter has 12v when trying to start the car(feeds the selinoid from the crank relay)crank fuse 30 amps under hood fuse box
No power here.
2)Power passing through the clutch switch,yellow and pink wires should have power on both sides to ground
When cluth is depressed.(circut is fed by the fuse 16 on the bcm hvac/ip ign)no power check fuse
Fuse here good, pink has 12v when grounded, yellow does not have 12v when grounded.
3)For the ignition switch there is another fuse on the Bcm(IGN SW /pk3 2 amp fuse shows on the prints
Fuse was not blown
4) Also there are two others fuses worth checking under the hood (they are labeled bcm 3-30 amps and bcm 4 -40 amps they feed the starting circut as well.
Both of these were good
5) For the switch itself:
There are five wires
(Terminal number in brackets) example (6).
White/black (6) 5 volt dc part of the theft deterrent
4.85v
Red/white (2) 12volts dc fed from the bcm ign/SW fuse(for actually turning on the crank relay when you try to start the car)
12.8v
White wire (5) looks like 5 volts passes through the switch to the bcm when car is started (Not sure on this one)
4.6v
Yellow (3) 12 volts dc fed from the switch back to the bcm from the switch to the crank relay when car is started(should read 12vdc here I would think when trying to start the car)
12.8v
Brown (4) 12 volts dc ,Feds the theft deterrent modul and the ignition lock selinoid .
12.8v aswell.
So all I see is that the yellow wire on the clutch switch has no 12v? Could that be my reason? Anyone have anything else I should check?
What I know:
Grounds are good, I checked resistance to all grounds and ground points I could get to easily from the battery, Every thing read 1.5 or under.
Starter with jumped terminals spins.
Fuses are good, relays are good
Gauges all work as expected except I do have a code for high fuel sensor voltage.
Blinkers horn and accessory buttons and all that all work as expected.
Powers on, when turning key to crank I get nothing except the lights dim slightly
Starter signal wire does not receive 12v as it's suppose to, if I jump 12v from the battery directly to the signal terminal it cranks instantly.
I'm assuming this is a sensor issue, I tried jumping each clutch switch individually and together to no avail.
I have power through the crank 30a fuse and up to the crank relay in the fuse box, but it never goes from there to the purple signal wire.
I found a website which listed voltages and stuff to check for starter, and I checked it all, as I said above signal wire has no 12v, fuses for it are good, and relay is good, I tried swapping anyway to be sure, no change.
1)purple wire on the starter has 12v when trying to start the car(feeds the selinoid from the crank relay)crank fuse 30 amps under hood fuse box
No power here.
2)Power passing through the clutch switch,yellow and pink wires should have power on both sides to ground
When cluth is depressed.(circut is fed by the fuse 16 on the bcm hvac/ip ign)no power check fuse
Fuse here good, pink has 12v when grounded, yellow does not have 12v when grounded.
3)For the ignition switch there is another fuse on the Bcm(IGN SW /pk3 2 amp fuse shows on the prints
Fuse was not blown
4) Also there are two others fuses worth checking under the hood (they are labeled bcm 3-30 amps and bcm 4 -40 amps they feed the starting circut as well.
Both of these were good
5) For the switch itself:
There are five wires
(Terminal number in brackets) example (6).
White/black (6) 5 volt dc part of the theft deterrent
4.85v
Red/white (2) 12volts dc fed from the bcm ign/SW fuse(for actually turning on the crank relay when you try to start the car)
12.8v
White wire (5) looks like 5 volts passes through the switch to the bcm when car is started (Not sure on this one)
4.6v
Yellow (3) 12 volts dc fed from the switch back to the bcm from the switch to the crank relay when car is started(should read 12vdc here I would think when trying to start the car)
12.8v
Brown (4) 12 volts dc ,Feds the theft deterrent modul and the ignition lock selinoid .
12.8v aswell.
So all I see is that the yellow wire on the clutch switch has no 12v? Could that be my reason? Anyone have anything else I should check?