V1 Ecotec Oil pan

[David]

Hello everyone just figured i post this here incase someone is interested. There has been a couple of threads of guys wanting to upgrade there oil pan. To have more capacity and also better baffling. I might order one snice I always worried about the baffling in the pan.

They are using a OEM LDK/LHU pan with there custom made baffling.

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[Desert Sasqwatch]

Hmm, $250 for a stock oil pan and (assuming) a new top baffle (first pic in your post) that is factory stock - and a supplied second tin baffle (second pic) that sits lower in the sump on top of the pump pickup - their 'system'(?). The website indicates better oil control during braking, acceleration and turning. They cite circle track - so left turns that pushes the oil into the sump end of the pan this does make sense. What if you're turning right and for more than 3-4 or more seconds? A baffle in the sump that helps with left turns will not help oil move from the shallow side of the pan into the sump around the pickup. I'm not seeing the 'engineering' they make claim to that will prevent oil starvation. Centrifugal force cannot be overcome with a baffle in the oil pan sump.

But, one of these plumbed into the oil system properly can provide those extra seconds needed to prevent oil starvation.

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And it works in all dynamic directions - left, right, acceleration and braking. An oil accumulator is a proven remedy - I'm not saying extra baffling in the oil pan sump won't help, but it cannot help in every dynamic situation. An oil accumulator, IMO, is money better spent.

 

[David]

Hmm, $250 for a stock oil pan and (assuming) a new top baffle (first pic in your post) that is factory stock - and a supplied second tin baffle (second pic) that sits lower in the sump on top of the pump pickup - their 'system'(?). The website indicates better oil control during braking, acceleration and turning. They cite circle track - so left turns that pushes the oil into the sump end of the pan this does make sense. What if you're turning right and for more than 3-4 or more seconds? A baffle in the sump that helps with left turns will not help oil move from the shallow side of the pan into the sump around the pickup. I'm not seeing the 'engineering' they make claim to that will prevent oil starvation. Centrifugal force cannot be overcome with a baffle in the oil pan sump.

But, one of these plumbed into the oil system properly can provide those extra seconds needed to prevent oil starvation.

Moroso Accumulators - Oil Systems, Pans, Pumps and Accessories - Moroso Shop/Browse

www.moroso.com

And it works in all dynamic directions - left, right, acceleration and braking. An oil accumulator is a proven remedy - I'm not saying extra baffling in the oil pan sump won't help, but it cannot help in every dynamic situation.

Was thinking the same, the R&D doesn't seem like its all there. Great idea but like you said I think a accumulator is the best bet. I also want to see if I can get a custom oil pan gasket made. I hate RTV a nice gasket would be amazing.

 

[duthehustle93]

I really wish they'd sell the baffle only, it'd be a no brainer since there aren't really any good off the shelf options and that'd be very cheap. When I built my engine, I ended up fabbing something that's almost identical to what they have here. It seems to work fine, but I don't have any comparative before/after data. I opted for this route instead of an accusump or door style baffle because from what I've read these engines aren't known to have oil starvation issues. I think I remember reading this in a very credible source (it might have even been in the GM published ecotec building book?) that these aren't known to have starvation issues. If anyone has oil pressure logs that say otherwise please correct me so I can keep an eye on this, but I haven't seen oil pressure issues yet with my DIY baffle.