ah.b.normal
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Oh! AND "Come Get Joe", I left you out. Thanks for your support, it is appreciated! "Oh to suffer the (written) slings and arrows of outrageous fortune!" 
Ah. B. Normal: GOB-BALT build has Started!
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Desert Sasqwatch
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I've never been good at following instructions, that's why my Goblin build went off the rails and I have a frame, suspension, and driveline that don't conform with the 'standard' Goblin. Highly doubt my build will be completed by then, but everyone is welcome to visit my garage for chat and some story telling. Shoot me a PM when you get ready for your trip to Globe. Plenty of great places to eat in Queen Creek and Apache Junction.DS and Scott, Thank You for coming to my aid, I Am Really sure GobFanClub was only joking!!! Well ain't you a lucky bunch of Lug Nuts! Because I ain't likely disuaded from anything by negative comments from others! I'm 60 y/o, I've heard them all! I've built a parade float platform and a camera vehicle out of junk cars. I've kept my own junk on the road day to day for 30 years. AND my accomplice "The Farmer" makes me look like a piker! He's built and won Tractor pulls, Demo derbies and dirt track low buck near demo derby racing. The Farmer "body dropped"(I helped) a 55 Olds 2 door on a 85 Caprice chassis for a Delta Airline pilot. That Delta Pilot then proceeded to drive it virtually everyday and just about anywhere, towing his motorcycle on a trailer.(his budget was the list price of a new 1991 Hyundai) His furthest vacation drive was Atlanta to Fairbanks AK.(w/ trailer)The Olds took the ferry from Seattle to Anchorage. My feelings are teflon coated and bomb proof, naysayer's are wasting THEIR time, not mine. They(NOT YOU GFC!) are only telling me what THEY cannot imagine or cannot do. I've never understood why they would find it so important to tell everyone how shallow, unimaginative, ineffectual, impotent and truly callow they are? Mebbe they're looking for my sympathy? Hey All, Look at my Sig, it shows I'm crazy!
ah.b.normal
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Everyone! Warning! Don't read this!, this means you! I mean it this time. This is not a message to you, it is to DS. If you end up knowing what I'm telling DS, I will not be held liable, you inflicted this knowledge upon yourself. I'm not sorry. It is purely your fault!...... Will give you ample warning of our arrival in Globe, DS.
I mean it this time. This is not a message to you, it is to DS. If you end up knowing what I'm telling DS, I will not be held liable, you inflicted this knowledge upon yourself. I'm not sorry. It is purely your fault!...... Will give you ample warning of our arrival in Globe, DS.ah.b.normal
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Stretching the engine harness from the fuse box to the rear of the car is a daunting task. Just collecting enough wire in similar colors and appropriate gauges is a chore! As you well know contigious colors make troubleshooting easier and more reliable. Wire count to follow. I had considered following DF's lead and just putting the fuse box in back but I am keeping the entire car's other systems in tact.
95Blitz
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You should have taken that box of wires I have.
ah.b.normal
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For it is wire I have, nee, it is patience I test!
ah.b.normal
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Dang! I’ve bit off a fair piece of trouble here. I’ll get through but I just spent a day harvesting wires from the Main Body Harness of an HHR. What an unholy mess. Similar method to cleaning a deer but not near as messy! I used a chain fall, hooked around the mid point of the wiring on it and raised that point about 11’ up. Then started peeling and clipping off ends. I raised and lowered the tangle occasionally as needed. I’d have needed a 30’ banquet table to stretch this mess out! I need wire segments 120” to extend the 3 connectors(computer, fuse block and that little 3 wire connector) of the engine harness from “the former location” of the back seat, up to the standard location of the under hood fuse box. About 55 wires total. There are only about 4 wires that DON’T need to be extended. I’m only complaining about the time consumed, I’m on a dead end schedule, end of April. Then I’m probably not going to be near GOB-BALT, in GA, again until April 2024.
ah.b.normal
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What is that mount off of? Saab or your original donor?
95Blitz
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The 2.0T Saab.
ah.b.normal
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It seems every application has little differences. The Saab, Saturn ION and the Cobalt/Pontiac G5 are all GM “Delta Platform”. I guess the platform is truly just a platform as the Saturn Ion coupe and sedan also share many floor pan specs, like seat mounting, but are very different from the bottoms of the doors up. I think the ION’s use the same brake and clutch pedals but the manual ones have a separate clutch reservoir. HHR’s use a gas pedal that bolts to the firewall plate, very different. Saturn wiring and computers are very different as well but use the same spec engines and transmissions? Oddly Saturns use a different strut/spring design at the top but the steering knuckle is the same. I think all use the same beam rear axle.(I haven’t seen a Saab in person.)
ah.b.normal
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Bothersome update: It appears I spoke too soon. To relocate the engine, I have changed gears and will be relocating the ECM to the “new” engine compartment in the rear and stretching the Body Harness “cobra head”connector (about 34? wires) from the front former engine compartment to the ECM’s new location. On an 06 the little dash harness connector above the brake booster has only 3 wires to stretch. The fuse box “black connector block” has only about 10 that need to go rearward. The engine harness to ECM “cobra head” alone has 43 wires. If anyone knows an easier way to do all this wiring hooey I might suggest you keep it to yourself until after you’ve done yours! Then show me! Monday Morning QB’s are useless.
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