V1 Ready to start, but. . .

[barichuk]

Oooh! I cleared the codes, the emission codes came back, but the fuel level code did not, and the butterfly is opening now! Progress!!! When I checked previously, I had no spark to the plugs. I am going to recheck that.

 

[barichuk]

Is the valve cover a good enough ground to check spark plugs?

 

[Lonny]

Most NA valve covers are not grounded.

 

[Lonny]

Lonny, I do not see a body harness to an engine harness connection.

Where does the other end of these hook to?

 

[barichuk]

So that is the body/engine connection! Each end ties into one of the harnesses.

 

[barichuk]

Can I erase the P0463 code, without it coming back, or alternatively is there a repair/replace that will fix it?

 

[barichuk]

Do I need an ignition module? I didn't take one off the donor. I am getting no spark to the plugs. The engine sat with no hood for a few years and the ends of a couple of coils look rusty/dirty, but I wouldn't think all four would go bad. Thoughts?

 

[Lonny]

The ECM controls the ignition.
Post a fresh list of symptoms, what works, and what doesn't work.

 

[barichuk]

The butterfly responds to the throttle pedal. The engine cranks but doesn't start. I tested a plug and it is not firing. Still getting the first three codes, but the P0463 fuel code doesn't come back. Good pressure to the fuel rail. One question; on the front right of the valve cover is something that looks like it should have a vacuum hose. Is that a concern?

 

[ctuinstra]

That’s for venting, it will not cause a starting issue.

Show a photo or let us know the color of the wires from both ends of the plug that goes to the coils. We need to make sure you have it plugged into the proper connector.

 

[Lonny]

Is it possible you don't have the crank trigger sensor plugged up?

 

[barichuk]

That's possible, but I didn't unplug anything when I pulled the engine. Where would I check for that?

 

[Lonny]

I think it is down by the starter. I would think it would throw a code if it had a problem but I am not certain.
I believe NUKER recently had to hook up his crank trigger you might try looking through his posts for some images.

 

[Towerdog]

I think it is down by the starter. I would think it would throw a code if it had a problem but I am not certain.
I believe NUKER recently had to hook up his crank trigger you might try looking through his posts for some images.

It is below the oil filter above the starter.

Part#700

 

[barichuk]

The coils tie in to the engine harness with no connectors. Pictures are the wires from the coils, left to right. The colors are:
1 black, brown, green/white, and tan/black.
2 black, brown, blue, and white/black.
3 black, brown, yellow/white, and tan/black
4 black, brown, blue, and white/black

 

[ctuinstra]

The coils tie in to the engine harness with no connectors. Pictures are the wires from the coils, left to right. The colors are:
1 black, brown, green/white, and tan/black.
2 black, brown, blue, and white/black.
3 black, brown, yellow/white, and tan/black
4 black, brown, blue, and white/black

Okay, I think the colors of the wires today are different than when they were shiny and new. I think the "white/black" and "tan/black" used to actually be pink/black according to the wiring diagram. No matter, we have them identified. This wire (whether it be white, tan, or pink) should have 12V on it with the ignition on or at least

Check the INJ 10A fuse to see if it's blown. Also check for 12V on BOTH sides of the top of the fuse.

If the fuse is good, check the "white/black or tan/black" wires at the coils for the 12V. You can poke a pin or needle in the center of the wire if you cannot get to the pins on the connector.

We just did this very same thing last night on another car and found the fuse to be blown. I doubt the same thing has happened to two different people at the same time, but something we have to check.

 

[barichuk]

Fuse is good, and I get 12 volts to the fuse plug. I'm getting 5-6 volts from the coil connector. Is there a way to check the coil itself?

 

[ctuinstra]

Fuse is good, and I get 12 volts to the fuse plug. I'm getting 5-6 volts from the coil connector. Is there a way to check the coil itself?

If you are getting 12V at the fuse on the fused side, you should be getting the same 12V at the "pink/black" wire on each coil. Did you check on each coil and get the same 5-6 volts? If so, you may have a wire issue between the fuse block and the coils. It could be the connectors on the back side of the fuse block or the wire itself.

Can you ohm out the pink/black wire to the fused side of the fuse? You can pull the fuse and ohm the wire to both sides of the fuse holder; one should give you very low resistance and the other will be extremely high or open.

 

[barichuk]

Ohms x10 on the meter- one side of the fuse plug reads about 70 and the other side doesn't register at all.

 

[ctuinstra]

Ohms x10 on the meter- one side of the fuse plug reads about 70 and the other side doesn't register at all.

If I'm understanding you correctly in regards to using the meter, that's 700ohms! Not good at all for a wire. At this point, it's either the pin connections on the back side of the fuse box to the connector or the wire itself. You may see if you can find and clean the pin and contacts on back of the fuse box and make sure the top of the fuse box in pressed down all the way. You may also want to expose the wire from the fuse box all the way to the coils and inspect it for cuts or breaks. From what I can tell, you have a problem there and I would not look anywhere else until you have this remedied.