Cavalier, Sunfire, Cobalt guys, etc have been swapping on the LNF/LDK OEM turbo for years. The turbo kits off of 2003+ Saab 9-3t were very popular. I don't see it as a difficult task. Yes, the supercharger is easier, but the turbo swap is still simple.Hmmm, that's completely opposite of what Ryan said today...? I think I'm just gonna stay NA for a while. However, if I go boost, I would definitely rather go turbo over SC!
That was me.I kind of remember someone on here having a custom fuel tank made or maybe he had his tank modified to make something fit. It'd be a very simple job for a fab shop. Probably not very expensive if you "know a guy."
Yes I did. I had to custom a lot of stuff and the clearance it tight but:Joebob did it
I *think* I have a spare used manifold or 2 laying around. You don't NEED the LSJ pulleys/belt/tensioner.Some things I still have/need:
What would I need for the rest of a SC "kit", since I already sent everything back to ZZP? I was at my 30 day limit and at the time, would not have gotten a refund on anything, if I returned it... I would hate to have to reorder it back from them? And I don't need their heat exchanger, that came with that kit anyway...
- I still have my SC unit and it's TB sitting in the garage, but the Bypass Valve is broken.
- I still have the heat exchanger I bought from Frozen Boost.
- I still have most of the parts to mount the heat exchanger, I'll have to order the heim joints.
- I will need to get another LSJ Intake Manifold
- I will need to order all the LSJ Pulley/Belt stuff
- I have my gutted AC Compressor still.
- I still have my Dual Pass kit as well.
All of this stuff is just how people have made things work. There is no single way to do it. Not even a best (cheapest, easiest...), only a different way.Cool on the manifold, but, what I don't understand is, one person tells me I need to use this or that, then another person tells me I don't need to use this or that? It's very confusing.... :/
In the first pic above, I tried that with the LSJ intake (before I returned it), with the SC unit sitting on it and routing a string around the pulleys. The string was nowhere near touching the alt pulley at all...? Judging by that pic, that alt pulley is much larger than mine?
In the 2nd pic, where did that idler pulley come from, that's attached to the alt?
That's why you have to do research, find the method that works best for you and then make solid plans. This won't make the execution any easier to perform but at least you'll have a clear plan and direction to make modifications in. Jumping from idea to idea is only going to burn time and money.Yes sir, I understand what you mean and I'm fine with doing whatever, but it's difficult too, when you read you'll need all this, then you don't need any of that...
like said by others, there are many ways to complete this. From the looks of it, the top picture uses the LSJ alternator bracket and maybe alternator to work. There does not look like enough engagement with the alternator to work at full amperage but I don't know. Also they might be using Phenolic spacers which push the intake manifold and supercharger out and up. Things that do not fit on a automatic car.Cool on the manifold, but, what I don't understand is, one person tells me I need to use this or that, then another person tells me I don't need to use this or that? It's very confusing.... :/
In the first pic above, I tried that with the LSJ intake (before I returned it), with the SC unit sitting on it and routing a string around the pulleys. The string was nowhere near touching the alt pulley at all...? Judging by that pic, that alt pulley is much larger than mine?
In the 2nd pic, where did that idler pulley come from, that's attached to the alt?
50hp would feel like a lot in a light goblin. Plus the SC whine is LOVELY.I just don't know about this mess anymore...
ZZP sent a 3.1 SC pulley with their kit, but the SC unit came with a 2.9, I believe, so that's what I tested it on the car with, the other day. Every forum I've seen, says do not use a 3.4 SC pulley....
Just seems to me, 50ish more HP, really isn't worth all this trouble. I cannot even find that SS alt bracket anymore, it's discontinued and I didn't see one of bay...?
It would almost be better to buy a 2.0 engine and salvage parts from it, as I assume I just wouldn't be able to swap engines and still use the L61 harness...
I don't know where to find that bracket. That would be the extra pulley in the 2nd picture I posted earlier. It doesn't look too difficult to make.Here are some pictures of the custom bracket for the new idler used when the Ariel Atom reconfigures the LSJ SC engine to work in their car.
Note: Ariel does away with all the brackets that are under the alternator so different length bolts are also required. I.e. the alternator is now closer to the engine block by ~ 1 inch.
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Also I found some plastic inserts in the alternator where this bracket is added. I am guessing they are there to help align the pulley(?) The second picture of the bracket has some machined areas where these plastic inserts end up fitting. Thus the bracket is held in place and aligned for the belt to run smoothly.