V1 Anti-Theft

[Joebob]

Ok got it, so if I do have loose connections how do I test for those. Also what kind of things would I test in the data connections? Very new to wiring and I only have a multi-meter.

I have used this to check if the data loop in intact and functioning normally.

Joe

 

[Rttoys]

Could have fried the starter with the goof up. Auto parts can test them, but there are ways to test them at home.

All of the grounds that are attached to those studs (by the battery, steering column, motor mount), loosen them, take them off and look for paint on the contact area, then wiggle them around and retighten. With things working then not working or the relays fluttering, it seems like a loose connection somewhere. On that note, make sure the starter connections are tight (that’s where all the main power wires come together) and the main power feed to the rear fuse box, too.

 

[KingChuck24]

Here is the video of the fusebox and dash on attempting to start: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1cMNKFBPWxkFid4PbFdFAfCrERp4dD4TE

I will go through all the connections tomorrow and I will probably end up removing the starter and testing it.

 

[Goblinfanclub1234]

well that is not what I was expecting...now I am thinking its in the wiring somewhere, especially with the dash looking like a christmas tree when trying to start. Did DF do your wiring harness?

 

[KingChuck24]

Yes, DF did my harness.

 

[Joebob]

It looks and sounds like you have something shorted to ground. Can you put a multimeter and check continuity of the starter + lug and check to ground. Miswiring could have fried the motor windings and have shorted them to ground. The computer is wigging out maybe trying to protect the system. Make sure you have no bare wires hanging around such as for mirrors or lights that could be touching as well.

Joe

 

[KingChuck24]

It looks and sounds like you have something shorted to ground. Can you put a multimeter and check continuity of the starter + lug and check to ground. Miswiring could have fried the motor windings and have shorted them to ground. The computer is wigging out maybe trying to protect the system. Make sure you have no bare wires hanging around such as for mirrors or lights that could be touching as well.

Joe

Yes I will check that this afternoon, do you think it is still worth taking off the starter? I was going to do that right when I got home.

 

[Joebob]

Yes I will check that this afternoon, do you think it is still worth taking off the starter? I was going to do that right when I got home.

Since the starter is relatively easy to change, it makes sense to have it pulled and checked professionally. You mention a possible miswire there and the harness has a high chance of being thinned properly, I would start looking for external issues. Worse case is something has shorted wires inside the harness or fusebox which might be messy to diagnose.

Joe

 

[Rttoys]

I just watched the vids, Woof. That’s a new one.

What is battery voltage with everything off?
What’s battery voltage, with key on and trying to start?

 

[Keckster]

Do you have a scanner to see if it is throwing any codes from the flashing?

 

[KingChuck24]

Do you have a scanner to see if it is throwing any codes from the flashing?

Only codes are due to the evap sensor

 

[Keckster]

I'll have to do some research but it almost looks like the crank signal is being turned off and back on kinda like how your headlights and hvac turn off when cranking causing some sort of loop

 

[KingChuck24]

Just checked continuity between the crank positive and the crank ground and that was good. There was not continuity between the large positive on top of the crank to the crank case ground. Not sure if there is supposed to be or not

 

[KingChuck24]

I just watched the vids, Woof. That’s a new one.

What is battery voltage with everything off?
What’s battery voltage, with key on and trying to start?

Voltage with battery connected is 12 volts with key turned to power it is 11.75 can’t get it when it’s cranking right now but once I get a friend to help I’ll post that.

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

What continuity value? If it's close to zero then you are trying to short 12V to ground either in the starter or with a miswire.

 

[Keckster]

anything less than 12.2 is considered a dead battery 12.6 is considered full...

 

[KingChuck24]

Charged the battery and still got the same issues. One interesting thing that happened was the first time I tried to do it after charging the battery I forgot to reconnect the pedal box ground after cleaning it and I got pretty much the exact same result. I only later realized that I needed to reattach the pedal box grounds and still got the same issues. Would this indicate that something is shorted to ground somewhere else?

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

Just because the battery took a charge doesn't mean it's functional. How many amps did it take to make the charge? A single dead cell in the battery will suck current and not hold the charge - and then cause the low voltage you are seeing that's below 12 volts. Seen this many times before, because a bad battery can also make the fusebox relays and gauge cluster do the death disco dance trying operate.

 

[KingChuck24]

Just because the battery took a charge doesn't mean it's functional. How many amps did it take to make the charge? A single dead cell in the battery will suck current and not hold the charge - and then cause the low voltage you are seeing that's below 12 volts. Seen this many times before, because a bad battery can also make the fusebox relays and gauge cluster do the death disco dance trying operate.

I bought the battery just about a week ago and I the charger I have is quite old but it was between 2 amps and about 5 or 6. I also tried jumping it and that didn't work either.

Not a great photo but this is it charging:

 

[Ark :D]

I would caution you to go over the car, end to end, thoroughly to double-check that every connector on the harness is plugged into something.