V1 2.2L Clutch Upgrade?

[jirwin]

For no particular reason at all...

I may be in search of a new clutch. I can't quite tell, but I think I'm smelling what I think is burnt clutch when I hammer it now. If I do have to replace the clutch (which btw has 130k on it) do I need to upgrade it? How much torque can the stock one handle? I want the "nicest" clutch my now supercharged engine can handle. I don't need super hard super fast engagement. I'd rather have something more forgiving like the stock one is.

F23 btw.

 

[Wes]

The 9.5" set from zzp is pricey but provides more surface area and a stock feel. Wait for the Black Friday sale!

 

[jirwin]

The 9.5" set from zzp is pricey but provides more surface area and a stock feel. Wait for the Black Friday sale!

I saw that option but was scared that its 10x the price of the stock clutch lol. Either way if its fried I don't think I can wait until Black Friday lol

 

[Trail_Creeper]

In my experience, and these are all non cobalt cars... I've ran stock clutches on mild built cars in the past. My 240sx (SR20 swapped) ran a stock clutch with a tune, mild turbo upgrade, full 3" exhaust, aftermarket FMIC, etc. The car made close to 300hp at that time. Even drifting it I still got over a year on it before pulling for a lightweight flywheel, bigger turbo, and a more aggressive tune.

My DSM had a stock clutch up through a mileld 330hp and drag racing.

My old civic ran a stock clutch (maybe factory?) for over 100k miles and holding up to the 300 mark before it gave up the ghost.

 

[Wes]

When I supercharged my 2.4, it slipped on the dyno and occasionally on hard pulls in higher gears. I drove it all summer, even went to the track and ran a 12.1 with the stock clutch slipping bad. I knew the car would be down for weeks doing a clutch upgrade and didn't want to miss out lol.

Unless it's completely shot just live with it for a while and do the right thing on the off season. I went with the stage 1 and it holds no problem, feels no different than a stock one would.

 

[jirwin]

Yeah... Its juuuuust finally getting warm up here in the north. I could probably do it without too much missed driving if I ordered parts and did it right now. Thankfully ZZP is an hour or two away so I get parts next day usually. I'm going to take it on a longer drive tomorrow and see how it feels before making any major decisions.

 

[Dsteinhorst]

I put a fresh stock clutch in and it's held so far. You may benefit from just a new one. It's only $100.

 

[Tinkles]

My 2003 Cavalier (L61/F23) is supercharged with a Harrop TVS and is making ~300whp. It has 110,000+ hard miles on the stock clutch and it is holding just fine. Just get yourself a stock replacement Luk or Exidy brand clutch.

 

[Scott #321]

I went stage 4 in a 350ish HP turbo car and it made the car close to undriveable. Tim is right around my HP level with a stock ss clutch and has no issues even with very spirited driving.

 

[jirwin]

Do I want a flywheel too (130K on engine)? Some "clutch kits" are listed with them. Looking at this kit: https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4697466&cc=1444461&pt=1993&jsn=910

 

[Gtstorey]

You can have your existing flywheel resurfaced at a machine shop, but I think getting mine machined wasn't much cheaper than getting a new one with a clutch kit. You will want to either get it resurfaced or replaced.

I'm fairly happy with the M-Pact I got from Rockauto. A little grabby but not to bad once you get used to it.
More Information for M-PACT 04217NSAWSST2 (rockauto.com)

 

[Dsteinhorst]

I didn't get a flywheel or resurface mine. It was in real good shape. If you've had slipping or grinding, definitely want to swap it out.

I got this kit: https://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-EX...2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

Holds my 250whp perfect so far.

 

[Gtstorey]

I would never install a new clutch on a used or non resurfaced flywheel. I can be cheap, but to much work if it slips to try and save $50-$100. And if it slips maybe another clutch also.

 

[JBINTX]

I highly recommend ZZP stage 3 with the aluminum flywheel.
I am 300 Hp and have had no issues pushing it quite hard.

Jason in Texas - ext. track - 09 SS/TC

I did a pretty good job bagging and labeling my hardware. The labels are mostly like "dash", or "seatbelts". The actual technical names by their size is still a little foreign to me. I found a good Layover Chart". Kind of like Bolts for Dummies...... Scroll to the bottom for the metric...

dfkitcar.com

 

[jirwin]

Not to resurrect this thread, but I went ahead and ordered a stock replacement clutch for it. I haven't put it in because I haven't had time. That being said... Is it possible a clutch with 130K on it could "break in" suddenly? It doesn't seem to be slipping anymore. About the time I took it to the drag strip I stopped noticing a slip. I was able to mat it in 3rd, 4th, and 5th with no slip yesterday. So weird