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V1 BAustin's Extended Track - 06 SS/SC Donor - #157 Registered

baustin
I had just about that exact same cruise control button issue. Fortunately mine was close enough that I was able to just heat the wire with my soldering iron and push it into the solder that was already on the switch. I have seen the current offering uses spade-style plugs for the switches.
Yeah, I remembered your issue when I was looking into mine. That was why I was really looking at the soldering but realized it was all really nicely connected and then I saw the arcing point that made contact that shouldn't be making contact. It wasn't a big deal to fix, I didn't even need to undo the soldering to gain some slack to space the wire from the terminal.

The flake of solder on the outside of the tan wire actually popped off and the insulation appeared to be solid but I couldn't get a great look since there was so little space. There likely was a pinhole in the insulation there which is why my heatshrink/electrical taping fixed the problem and it works nicely again.
 
baustin
This is a revision to the early cruise control wiring.
Good note, that image is more accurate for early models. I didn't have to install the resistors myself since DF was doing the soldering on the button set initially. After my wiring cleanup I got the exact resistor values I was expected based on which switches were pressed every time.
 
baustin
New boost solenoid is on order to replace the one that appears to now be stuck open. At any throttle amount in any gear, I now get a max of 3-4 psi of boost. It's a sudden change that is consistent, I haven't messed with any wiring recently. I took off and tested my boost bypass valve and it works normally and all the pressure lines from the intake to the solenoid, from the solenoid to the bypass valve, and then from the bypass valve to the supercharger appear to be solid and well connected. No DTC's are showing up and in HPTuners and the control of the solenoid appears to be normal.

With only 3-4 psi of boost for the past day vs up to 17psi, the car still has a small amount of acceleration but nowhere close to normal.
 
baustin
Some updates to add, all of this happened with the engine in the frame, I didn't need to pull the engine for this work
  • Replaced the timing chains and guides. Including the main timing chain, balance shaft chain, (5) uower chain guides, upper chain guide, oil squirter, balance shaft chain tensioner, camshaft bolts, ZZP upgraded camshaft chain guide. I already have the upgraded timing chain upper guide bolt (1 piece vs 2 pieces) and the latest timing chain tensioner design I put in 8k miles ago and doesn't need replacing at this point. I think I was starting to hear some noise from the passenger side of the engine and the timing chain part replacement has been on my list to do this year.
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  • During the timing chain maintenance replacement I also replaced the water pump (likely the original and has plastic impeller) and thermostat (mine was cycling at 174F not 180F) and all gaskets for the valve cover (previous had some deformation) and timing cover.
  • When I unbolted the harmonic balancer, I was able to pull it off the crankshaft with nearly no force and just my fingertips, no tools needed. The crankshaft and key both looked perfect but the lack of friction fit was concerning. I replaced the harmonic balancer/bolt and front main seal just to be safe instead of running into a failure soon. New one from ZZP freely slid till ~1/8-1/4" of friction press that I used the old bolt to accomplish. To correctly torque to yield the new bolt, I just made a piece of metal to press against my garage floor to prevent rotating the engine.
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  • When I pulled my license plate and plate lights off to just have it out of the way for this work, the wires broke where they were soldered to the circuit board, so I decided to move my license plate and go with a different light setup.
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  • Yearly oil and oil filter change.
  • When I pulled the muffler off for the timing chain and water pump work, I found I actually was removing a rattle can instead of muffler. The internal baffles had cracked somewhere and it was very noisy at least when cool, maybe less rattle when hot. So I finally had the need to learn to weld so I could make a replacement muffler for myself.
    • I used a Flowmaster 942541 from the 40 series Delta Flow line with a couple mandrel bent pipe portions from Summit Racing and reused the flange portion from the DF muffler setup, very similar to what Rttoys recently did (link)
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    • After a coat of VHT flat black paint and following the curing process instructions, I've now got an exhaust that looks very close to the DF version and sounds very similar as well, except no longer rattling.
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baustin
Unfortunately I've now run into a new problem to fix... Last week after completing the timing chain work, I felt like I couldn't feel 2nd gear engage very positively. The other gears seemed to have a positive feedback when shifting but 2nd no longer did. Well, when heading home from church today I tried to shift normally from 1st to 2nd and I can only assume the syncros broke because all I can get with 2nd is very bad grinding rattle noise. 1/3/4/5 still engage correctly and I can get 2nd if I rev match but it won't shift into 2nd easily any longer. I know that now means I have bits floating around that are going to cause damage elsewhere so I think I'm parked till I figure out my next solution. Not what I was hoping for with a transmission currently at ~86k miles but the Cobalt it came out of had a wreck that broke the driveshaft so needing to replace it has always been a thought.

I've questioned the longevity of this F35 with LSD since I did an oil change when building the Goblin originally since the gear oil that came out had a nice silvery sheen throughout. It also had that nice silvery metallic sheen when doing a 2nd oil change on the transmission 2 years later.

I'm not currently sure of the best option to go with but I know a few options include
  1. junkyard F35
  2. find a company selling new F35 transmissions, LSD may not be required but it's a bonus if it has one to be consistent with what I built originally
  3. rebuild my F35 transmission. Not knowing quite how much is damaged with 2nd gear failing like it did, I'm not sure if this is something I have the tools to accomplish or if I need to work with a specialty shop to get it rebuilt.
  4. I've seen there are discussions about going from an F35 to an F23, I'm not currently thinking the work required is what I'm interested in but I'm open to input
  5. other options?
 
Rttoys
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  • I used a Flowmaster 942541 from the 40 series Delta Flow line with a couple mandrel bent pipe portions from Summit Racing and reused the flange portion from the DF muffler setup, very similar to what Rttoys recently did (link)

you’ll like the tone running down the road. Much more refined than the stock muffler. :cool:
 
Rttoys
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I'm not currently sure of the best option to go with but I know a few options include
  1. junkyard F35
  2. find a company selling new F35 transmissions, LSD may not be required but it's a bonus if it has one to be consistent with what I built originally
  3. rebuild my F35 transmission. Not knowing quite how much is damaged with 2nd gear failing like it did, I'm not sure if this is something I have the tools to accomplish or if I need to work with a specialty shop to get it rebuilt.
  4. I've seen there are discussions about going from an F35 to an F23, I'm not currently thinking the work required is what I'm interested in but I'm open to input
  5. other options?
if you were local I would give you my backup one to get you by and figure out something with yours. Shipping would just cost too much though. If there’s a local manual trans shop I would take it there to see if they can fix it and such. Other than that, I would maybe scavenge a junk yard Or eBay? Not sure if you would want to go through the hassle of a f23 swap.
 
Robinjo
I just had my Honda Master Mechanic friend rebuild my F35. Some discontinued parts were tricky to find but I was still able to find with GM part numbers from a shop manual he had access to. He said the hardest part was getting the trans case to split open. He mentioned this was the hardest one he’s ever opened, but said it was easy after that.

I have a decent F35 non-LSD sitting in my garage in Alabama. Been looking to sell it but haven’t tried terribly hard.
 
baustin
I'm on my way to buy the F35 OptimizePrime has available, about a 3hr drive from where I live north of Raleigh. I might look at rebuilding my current one to have a backup for the future, thanks for the info about the difficulty of rebuilding.
 
baustin
Replacement transmission is now fully installed, big thanks to @OptimizePrime for having a LSD F35 that's in good shape available to sell quickly. Functionally the only difference is my final drive ratio is now 3.82 instead of 4.05. It previously had the counterweight on top of the transmission cut/ground off which I assume was to help clearance around the coolant hose and/or fuse box and electrical wiring.

This was the 1st time I've had my engine/transmission out of the goblin since it originally went in in 2019. I tried to see if I would be able to do it mostly in the frame but with the LSJ setup it looked like I had to pull it out to get the transmission to engine bolts all removed. Even if I could've gotten the transmission to engine bolt located near the starter out in the goblin, I think I still preferred to just have it on an engine hoist for the cleanup and installation.

I checked and reused my clutch (GMPP with upgraded throw-out bearing new to my goblin + a few thousand miles). I replaced the axle seals on the replacement F35 since I reused my LSJ axles so I could keep using my rear (cobalt front) wheel bearings. The axles may have the same diameter but I prefer a new seal if the installed axle changes, only reusing the seal when it's in good shape if it's the same axle being reinstalled. I did install the intermediate shaft that OptimizePrime included, I compared what I had and what he included and found that the bearings on my intermediate shaft were far more loose and noisy, especially when wet. Per ZZP info I used Redline MT-90 oil to fill the transmission. I used the shifter cable mount that was on the replacement transmission since I had one of the earliest design brackets that left the cables taking a sharp bend, the replacement bracket keeps the cables far straighter now (pictures below).

I also replaced my supercharger coupler and put in new oil. Might've been preventative only but occasionally I thought I heard the 'bag of rocks' sound from my supercharger at idle that went away with throttle which points to the coupler. It wasn't extremely loose but easy enough to do. Reassembled with GM adhesive and reinstalled on the intake of the engine.

When doing the timing chain work the other week I found the serpentine belt that I installed from ZZP last fall had 1 spot that had already broken 5 ribs to the mid point of the belt. Well, there were only a couple drives since then before the transmission broke and when I looked this time, all 6 ribs were broke. New belt is installed, still from ZZP since their belts are such a good price compared to local for me.

Bleeding the clutch unfortunately went just like it did in 2019... I know how the clutch elbow/throw-out bearing/connections work but just didn't seat the seal on the top end of the clutch pipe all the way down. Everything clipped together but as you might expect when I started working on bleeding it I was merely dripping brake fluid down the clutch pipe into the bellhousing. I'd estimate I lost ~1/8 cup fluid there which is almost done dripping out after 3 drives. I did spray some brake cleaner into the bell housing as well to wash an fluid off the clutch and pressure place and leave it just at the bottom of the bell housing. I didn't feel like pulling the engine back out to clean that area since I know it's dripping out and will finish sometime in the next few drives. I hadn't yet installed the subframe at this point, nor the fuse block, just to keep it easy to reach the clutch bleeder valve.

After fixing the seal at the top of the clutch pipe and pushing it far enough down I then reassembled the clutch system and worked on bleeding it. Initially I tried it solo per the GM instructions with a vacuum bleeder on the reservoir but I went back to essentially the method Lonny described a few years ago and is how I bleed my clutch originally with 1 difference: bleed the main line like it's a brake caliper (1 person pump the pedal multiple times, hold the pedal down, 1 person open the bleeder, close the bleeder, release the pedal) and then bleed the throw out bearing (pump the pedal multiple times, hold the pedal down, open the bleeder, release the pedal, close the bleeder). The difference I do is that I don't just drain to a cup, I hook up my vacuum bleeder to the transmission bleeder and keep vacuum on it. It took some time but I eventually was getting pure smooth brake fluid with both types of bleeding. I did need to add a zip tie around the drain hose at the bleeder to keep it from just pulling air into the hose that wasn't actually in the fluid. No fluid drop in the reservoir after a few drives and the amount of dripping from the transmission to engine surface is nearly none now.

Refilled the intercooler coolant and ran the intercooler pump a few times till the level no longer dropped, that's an easy system to finish. I then refilled the engine coolant through the passenger side block connection, first topping off what's in the engine and then pouring it down the coolant tube that runs to the radiator. Reconnected the coolant hose to the engine and finished filling up the reservoir. I haven't needed to add any coolant since then, I think I got the system filled with essentially no air bubbles this way.


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Newer style shifter bracket, unless OptimizePrime welded the adjustment himself:
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For reference, this is how far the driver side axle installed into the transmission, based on he previous dirt lines from my old transmission, this seems to be all the driver side does. The cup can play a small amount in and out (maybe 1-2 mm) but the exposed bright shaft portion at the seal is only ~1/8".
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I added some anti-seize in the splines for the passenger axle to the intermediate shaft (actually also on the splines to the wheel bearings too). The passenger side axle easily slipped/clipped into it's fully seated spot:
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I currently have a 4.05 LSD F35 transmission with a failed 2nd gear synchro sitting in my garage, I need to figure out what's happening next to that. I also have a pair of LNF axles in good condition and 1 intermediate shaft that is ok but might need a new bearing before too many miles if it's installed again.
 
OptimizePrime
Replacement transmission is now fully installed, big thanks to @OptimizePrime for having a LSD F35 that's in good shape available to sell quickly.
Glad she worked out for you man!

It previously had the counterweight on top of the transmission cut/ground off which I assume was to help clearance around the coolant hose and/or fuse box and electrical wiring.
Yep, the counterweight just gets in the way, you won't be able to tell a difference.

Newer style shifter bracket, unless OptimizePrime welded the adjustment himself:
View attachment 47663

I did!
 
baustin
3rd time needing to revisit cruise control on my goblin.

If I'm recalling correctly the 1st time cruise control stopped working it was due to my clutch position switch not being close enough to the clutch pedal, this was very soon after building. Symptom was that cruise control cut out going over large bumps like a bridge on the interstate.

2nd time I found a slightly chaffed button panel wire and after fixing that area and reassembling I had a working cruise control again. Symptom was mainly that it would only work for a blip or not at all.

This 3rd time has been quite frustrating but the good thing is that I'm updating after it's working again, it's not still a current issue, at least for today. Cruise control started cutting out while driving and a time or two after some bumps in the road which made me think it was possible a lose wire solder point or a poor connector contact. I could get it to engage for a quick second or not at all (meaning the message 'cruise engaged' on the dash panel didn't even stay on for the normal time amount or didn't even show and cruise wouldn't function).

I initially inspected my button panel again since I've had issues there previously and the clutch/brake pedal switches, I found no issue but when reinstalling to the car the power wire to the on/off switch broke at the end of the insulation strip back, I soldered that back together but cruise didn't change. Still could only get nothing or maybe a blip of 'cruise engaged' but never could drive with it. I did verify the resistor values were correct at the end of the dash buttons. When I built my goblin I reused a multi-position plug to have a disconnect point for the dash buttons just ~8" of wire, this was where I measured resistance values. The clutch and brake pedal switches are super simple open/closed contact switches and were working exactly as expected.

I know I have an '06 LSJ so I haven't needed a center high stop resistor on the circuit with my center brake light but I decided to try that in case over time my led light bar has changed characteristic and required the additional resistor (only known to be needed for later models but I figured it would be easy to insert at my connector point by the rear tail light to test. As expected, no change in cruise control behavior so I removed the inserted resistor and plugged my center brake light back directly as it was for the last 5+ years.

Next up was to go to the BCM/fuse box/PCM connectors to verify the signals were getting to those points correctly, this of course take more disassembly since I have a footwell cover and engine cover. I checked all the circuit end points and fuses:
-EPS fuse, BCM:C4(F9), dash switches, BCM:C2(61)
-I/P IGN fuse, BCM:C4(F4), brake switch, PCM:C1(46)
-EMISSIONS fuse, Fuseblock:C5(C1), clutch switch, PCM:C1(53)
All points and fuses were continuous and showed the necessary resistances. All connector pins and sockets appeared to be undamaged, not stretched or bent. I pulled off my ground wires and cleaned the studs and washers with a bristle brush to make sure it was not just a bad ground issue. Since the only misbehaving circuit is the cruise control, I don't think it's a ground issue but it's always bad to have weak ground points. I then reassembled the BCM and PCM. I didn't disconnect the fuse connectors, I just used my multimeter on the fuse top since that also would verify the multiplug under the fuse block was making good connection.

Test drive completed and cruise control worked immediately and normally. I assume I fixed the issue by either cleaning a ground stud or by unseating and reconnecting the BCM plugs or the PCM plug. I kind of wish I had found a smoking gun showing where the issue happened but I'm glad to have it working again.
 
baustin
Yeah, exactly.

Hopefully it'll be at least another 2-3 years before it revisits me, or never again.
So far that's been about how long cruise works without issue.

And just to note, I hadn't done anything to my car before this popped up, it wasn't a result of disconnect or working on other things.
 
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