V1 AleX1/9's City Goblin - 07 SS/SC donor - Chassis #18 - WA registered

[KJP]

Who is having oversteer?? Understeer is a much bigger issue IMO.

This seemed odd to me as well I would be interested to see where this is coming from.

 

[AleX1/9]

First time on all fours

 

[JSATX]

Looks great! Have you mocked up the shifter under those gauges below the instrument cluster? There’s not much room there...

 

[AleX1/9]

Not yet, I have held off on wiring the auxiliary gauges until I get to that point. I have a couple bits of wiring to clean up, the column/steering wheel, and then we’ll see how the shifter goes. Will find out soon!

 

[TheNuker]

Yeah your hand will whack those gauges for sure!

Looks great.

Nuker

 

[AleX1/9]

Finished the intake today. Consists of cut down oem MAF tube, 3" to 3" ID 30 degree silicone joiner, 3" to 3.25"ID 90 degree silicone joiner/reducer (both also cut down), a 3" filter cone and 3" aluminum joiner pipe. Got all of it on ebay for $45

Eventually I'll find a nicer quality filter to put on there, and I still need to decide how I want to tap the crank breather hose (not much room between the MAF sensor and throttle body). I think I'm going to try and thread a tapered NPT or similar barb into the bottom of the silicone hose joiner and see how she holds..... maybe with a dab of epoxy....

 

[JSATX]

That MAF location is pretty worrying. Is that how all the SC cars are? I’m not saying you should change anything, just keep it in the back of your mind when you have it tuned. I imagine the output frequency is going to be all over the place but hopefully it wont cause you any issues.

 

[BaltimoreHokie]

That MAF location is pretty worrying. Is that how all the SC cars are? I’m not saying you should change anything, just keep it in the back of your mind when you have it tuned. I imagine the output frequency is going to be all over the place but hopefully it wont cause you any issues.

The MAF that was on my SS was in the wheel well. Pretty close to the actual filter. It was the ZZP CAI fyi. I considered keeping it but I assumed we'd have something that came with our kit. I guess not if you had to make yours. I'll have to find something.

 

[AleX1/9]

Seems to run ok, but now that the seats are in, I’m envisioning a filter mounted snorkel style between the two headrests! That would also give some length between the throttle body and MAF

Also found a new spot for the auxiliary gauges. Mounted to the column, and notched into the cowl tube.

I also made some new brackets for the turn stalk, to angle it back and away from the steering wheel. The steering wheels that come from DF have a deep dish, and mine is pretty flat, and was only an inch behind the wheel.

 

[BaltimoreHokie]

I really like those seats. Are they comfortable? Did you retro fit sliders or buy some for them?

 

[TheNuker]

The windshield makes the middle between the seats quiet the deadzone for air. Else I would love to put a scoop for the intercooler heat exchanger.

Nuker-

 

[KJP]

I really like those seats. Are they comfortable? Did you retro fit sliders or buy some for them?

x2 those look great in the car

 

[AleX1/9]

I really like those seats. Are they comfortable? Did you retro fit sliders or buy some for them?

Thanks guys!

They're quite comfy for me, I'm 6 foot 200lbs. Can't speak to long road trip comfort though. I welded supports in for sliders before powdercoating - more details earlier in this thread. maybe page 2? Also laid some dynamat down underneath.

 

[JeffsGoblin]

Alex, the build looks great! What about the heat exchanger placement? Some of the other builds are putting it in the back. How is your's working out up front and is the option B setup working like you thought it would?

 

[AleX1/9]

Alex, the build looks great! What about the heat exchanger placement? Some of the other builds are putting it in the back. How is your's working out up front and is the option B setup working like you thought it would?

I’m not driving quite yet, so nothing to report here.

For what it’s worth, I went form over function on the heat exchanger placement. For the clean & simple look I’m after, worth the compromise hands down. I won’t be running the wing or most of the body panels either... to reduce the visual weight of the whole vehicle.

I would guess the rear mounted setups like BAR-AIR’s and CTUINSTRA’s are 3x more efficient considering size and placement. If you like the look, that’s the way to go.

Some other ideas are side pods/scoops mounted in front of the rear wheels, or ducktail style

 

[TheNuker]

FYI, My front mount heatexchanger I was seeing IAT2s up into the 180s on hot days, and that is with a new functioning pump. That is the reason I switched to back mount and much larger now I'm down in the 90s low 100s when I'm pushing it for an extended time.

And keep in mind the 180s IAT2s were with the stock pulley, and the 90s-100s are with a 2.8"

Nuker-

I wanted to expand and say that I think a part of the reason front mount was sucking a lot of the heat from the radiator. And that system is a heck of a lot hotter then the intercooler system.

 

[ctuinstra]

I found it interesting that going down a long straight road with no load and the IATs would climb. At first it seems strange because the engine is under no stress, why would it get warmer. Then it dawned on me that the throttle is closed and there is no (very little) ambient air coming coming into the intake and the sensor is warming up because of the engine. Once I was back on the throttle, you could see the temps drop like a rock again. Kind of fun to watch on the OBDII scan gauge.

 

[JeffsGoblin]

Alex, I'm curious if you'll get the same results as Nuker. If a builder is going after performance on the supercharger, it doesn't seem like it would buy a whole lot to do both front and rear heat exchangers. I wonder if anyone is running both? Sorta like running the stock with the dual pass and the ZZP heat exchanger.

 

[Brian74]

FYI, My front mount heatexchanger I was seeing IAT2s up into the 180s on hot days, and that is with a new functioning pump. That is the reason I switched to back mount and much larger now I'm down in the 90s low 100s when I'm pushing it for an extended time.

And keep in mind the 180s IAT2s were with the stock pulley, and the 90s-100s are with a 2.8"

Nuker-

I wanted to expand and say that I think a part of the reason front mount was sucking a lot of the heat from the radiator. And that system is a heck of a lot hotter then the intercooler system.

Is that front heat exchanger designed to run behind the radiator or in front of it?

 

[Ben Eldridge-Peter]

Im planning on running the provided SS heatexchanger as well as the zzp.