V1 CodyP's Extended Track Goblin - 06' SS/SC #296

[Desert Sasqwatch]

Get a case of PB Blaster and start spraying every nut and bolt now, repeat for many days. Experience has shown the rear sub frame bolts may need serious surgery to remove - cutting into the floor from inside the car.

 

[Rttoys]

I’m sure it steers “fine”. What I’m talking is the intermediate shaft that will have to collapse and expand to get it into the goblin. They normally “freeze” or lock up making it impossible to transfer over. Mine was froze and I got it freed, but it was a PITA and wasn’t going to work smoothly, so I bought a new shaft.

Here is one, but it was on a quick search, so not sure if exact fit or pricing.

2005-2010 Chevrolet Cobalt Steering Shaft - Steering - Replacement 05-10 Cobalt Steering Shaft - 18305-02549815 - PartsGeek

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[Rttoys]

You can assess the header when you get it out of the car. Be sure to keep the sweet dot approved eye bolts.

 

[CodyP]

Think I can fit it in the Goblin for a LSJ-BIGT swap?

 

[Ark :D]

Wth is that turbo for? A battleship?

 

[CodyP]

Get a case of PB Blaster and start spraying every nut and bolt now, repeat for many days. Experience has shown the rear sub frame bolts may need serious surgery to remove - cutting into the floor from inside the car.

I've got enough Knocker Loose to last a lifetime. Haha.

 

[CodyP]

Get a case of PB Blaster and start spraying every nut and bolt now, repeat for many days. Experience has shown the rear sub frame bolts may need serious surgery to remove - cutting into the floor from inside the car.

Also the rear subframe bolts on my donor are no longer connected to anything. That's why the car was parked in the first place. I'll probably be removing those bolts once I slide the assembly out.

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

Wth is that turbo for? A battleship?

Looks like a water pump for something. Could be a battleship.

 

[CodyP]

I work at a chemical refinery so I'm not 100 percent sure what this one is for, but Desert Sasqwatch is likely correct. It's most likely a water pump or process chemical pump.

 

[Rttoys]

If you don’t add a stack to that, I’ll be disappointed.

 

[CodyP]

Couple of questions. I'm looking into rebuilding my LSJ and possibly doing the turbo swap before installation just to get it out of the way. I really want to "future proof" my build and get whatever out of the way that I can before installation. The dilemma is, I want all the power! There aren't any E85 stations within 30 minutes of me but I would like to utilize the fuel if someone brings it into the area in the future. I know I have to upgrade my fuel system for both the turbo swap and for E85. My questions are;

1) Is there a system that is interchangeable between 93 pump gas and E85? Aside from a tune, if I install and run the turbo on 93 can I later swap to E85 if we get it locally?

2) I'm sure I'll need a different fuel pump, do I need the "turbo specific fuel tank" to accommodate a larger pump?

3) Can I upgrade the fuel system now, even if I decide to put the SC in and do the turbo swap later? Will it make a difference?

4) Am I just getting ahead of myself and I should wait until I'm at that point and upgrade everything as its needed? I just don't want to have to do something twice and have to waste time and money fixing and refabricating things if it's beneficial now. I really don't want to mess up paint if I have to install a different bracket or something.

 

[Towerdog]

I would sugjest with that much rust that

Couple of questions. I'm looking into rebuilding my LSJ and possibly doing the turbo swap before installation just to get it out of the way. I really want to "future proof" my build and get whatever out of the way that I can before installation. The dilemma is, I want all the power! There aren't any E85 stations within 30 minutes of me but I would like to utilize the fuel if someone brings it into the area in the future. I know I have to upgrade my fuel system for both the turbo swap and for E85. My questions are;

1) Is there a system that is interchangeable between 93 pump gas and E85? Aside from a tune, if I install and run the turbo on 93 can I later swap to E85 if we get it locally?

2) I'm sure I'll need a different fuel pump, do I need the "turbo specific fuel tank" to accommodate a larger pump?

3) Can I upgrade the fuel system now, even if I decide to put the SC in and do the turbo swap later? Will it make a difference?

4) Am I just getting ahead of myself and I should wait until I'm at that point and upgrade everything as its needed? I just don't want to have to do something twice and have to waste time and money fixing and refabricating things if it's beneficial now. I really don't want to mess up paint if I have to install a different bracket or something.

As far as the engine goes send ZZP an email and they will set you up on the right track for what you are wanting to do.

 

[Rttoys]

To be honest, anything over 300-320hp can be a bit of a handful until you get use to it and that’s fairly easy to achieve with a stock lsj. I’m all for preparing for the future and only doing things once, but with as lightweight as a goblin is, tread lightly at first. You don’t want to Brettit.

Plus, I had a rule with myself when building and recommend it to others: it ran when I pulled it out of the cobalt, so it should run when i put it in the goblin. I didn’t want to chase bugs between the transfer and my mods, not knowing which area was the problem.

 

[CodyP]

To be honest, anything over 300-320hp can be a bit of a handful until you get use to it and that’s fairly easy to achieve with a stock lsj. I’m all for preparing for the future and only doing things once, but with as lightweight as a goblin is, tread lightly at first. You don’t want to Brettit.

Plus, I had a rule with myself when building and recommend it to others: it ran when I pulled it out of the cobalt, so it should run when i put it in the goblin. I didn’t want to chase bugs between the transfer and my mods, not knowing which area was the problem.

I had to look up Brettit, but I've gotta say, I'm pretty sure that urban dictionary steered me wrong..

 

[CodyP]

I would sugjest with that much rust that

As far as the engine goes send ZZP an email and they will set you up on the right track for what you are wanting to do.

I think the first part of what you were saying got jumbled. I'm not sure what you were trying to say?

 

[Rttoys]

I had to look up Brettit, but I've gotta say, I'm pretty sure that urban dictionary steered me wrong..

You can start at post 92 sorry if the google search lead to midget porn or something

Brett W’s City Goblin – 09 SS Donor #229 v1

P0627 Pretty much tells the story. It says there is an open in the fuel pump circuit.

dfkitcar.com

 

[Ross]

Couple of questions. I'm looking into rebuilding my LSJ and possibly...

1) The stock engine control management system (P12 ECM) does not accommodate an ethanol sensor, so if you go from 93 octane gas to e85, you would need to change the tune. I plan to do this with HP Tuners, but will need to bring my laptop and HP Tuners tools with me to a gas station to be able to change tunes.

Another option is to switch out the P12 ECM to a more modern one. The E67 could be used on the LSJ, if you are willing to do a fair bit of work. Read up here and here. Of course you could always drop $1000 or so to go to a stand alone system like Holley or Haltech.

2) I think the LSJ fuel pump is good to about 400 hp, and can pump ethanol.

3) Yes you could. A boost reference fuel system would be a nice upgrade for the LSJ, as it allows big injectors to have more range. Big injectors often have issues at idle, as it is hard for them to dispense small amounts of fuel.

4) Well, if it was me, I would do it later, but then I have pulled my engine for the last 2 winters doing upgrading. I wanted to get to know my LSJ health before upgrading it. Now I know that the bright green 32lb/hr injectors are at 100% duty cycle when I drive the engine hard. I know my fuel pump puts out 60+ PSI pressure when driven hard. I have replaced the broken manifold air pressure (MAP) sensor, the worn out intercooler pump brushes, the broken bolt holding the cam chain guide, and the faulty cam chain tensioner. All good maintenance items before adding performance upgrades.

 

[CodyP]

1) The stock engine control management system (P12 ECM) does not accommodate an ethanol sensor, so if you go from 93 octane gas to e85, you would need to change the tune. I plan to do this with HP Tuners, but will need to bring my laptop and HP Tuners tools with me to a gas station to be able to change tunes.

Another option is to switch out the P12 ECM to a more modern one. The E67 could be used on the LSJ, if you are willing to do a fair bit of work. Read up here and here. Of course you could always drop $1000 or so to go to a stand alone system like Holley or Haltech.

2) I think the LSJ fuel pump is good to about 400 hp, and can pump ethanol.

3) Yes you could. A boost reference fuel system would be a nice upgrade for the LSJ, as it allows big injectors to have more range. Big injectors often have issues at idle, as it is hard for them to dispense small amounts of fuel.

4) Well, if it was me, I would do it later, but then I have pulled my engine for the last 2 winters doing upgrading. I wanted to get to know my LSJ health before upgrading it. Now I know that the bright green 32lb/hr injectors are at 100% duty cycle when I drive the engine hard. I know my fuel pump puts out 60+ PSI pressure when driven hard. I have replaced the broken manifold air pressure (MAP) sensor, the worn out intercooler pump brushes, the broken bolt holding the cam chain, and the faulty cam chain tensioner. All good maintenance items before adding performance upgrades.

Great bit of info! Thank you! Thank you everyone. I looked up the thread about Brett. I think I'm going to heed the warning and start a bit more modest. I'll do the upgrades later. I'm am leaning towards doing an engine refresher and a fuel system upgrade before I drop it in though. I think that in the long run it'll be worth it.

 

[Rttoys]

Just knowing what happened to him, makes me timid on full throttle 1-2 shifts and I’m roughly 30hp less than his is.

 

[Towerdog]

I think the first part of what you were saying got jumbled. I'm not sure what you were trying to say?

Ohh for heavens sake. I started to respond to an earlier question about you front spindles then diched the Idea,,, well i cant delete drafts...

ZZP told me that the LSJ can handle up to 400 WHP with the stock internals. Just stepping down to a 3.1 pulley, 60# injectors and a tune will gain 30-50 WHP.

But I am with Rttoys and Lonny, I will drive mine stock the first year to get used to it. If you havnt rode in one you would be amazed at how fast it is stock.