V1 Frank's Florida Street Goblin Build (#227) - 06 SS, 2.4L donor

[ctuinstra]

I still don't see the reason for a wing on a vehicle with NO propensity for aerodynamic lift.

'Cause they look good.

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

I still don't see the reason for a wing on a vehicle with NO propensity for aerodynamic lift.

Hmm, no aerodynamic lift (you do mean downforce)??? Got that one solved.

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[Rttoys]

The same point as nipples on a dude; it just looks right.

 

[CaptFrank2001]

I still don't see the reason for a wing on a vehicle with NO propensity for aerodynamic lift.

No reason for paint either. It's just extra weight !!!

 

[G Atsma]

Hmm, no aerodynamic lift (you do mean downforce)??? Got that one solved.

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You only really need downforce if there is a lifting tendency, which a tube frame will not do to any real extent.
But if the main benefit is looks, then OK. Otherwise it is mainly a source of drag.
As far as paint, it offers protection against corrosion, which, with a steel frame, is a necessary requirement. Powder coating serves the same purpose.

 

[AMCAMX1969]

There are many more reasons for a wing, for example:

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

You only really need downforce if there is a lifting tendency, which a tube frame will not do to any real extent.
But if the main benefit is looks, then OK. Otherwise it is mainly a source of drag.
As far as paint, it offers protection against corrosion, which, with a steel frame, is a necessary requirement. Powder coating serves the same purpose.

True if it is just the tubes exposed to aerodynamic forces. As soon as you add body panels to the tubes it can create lift, since the air is forced over the top of the body panels and slows down. Unless you have a car like Ross' - purely a tube frame - there becomes a need for aerodynamic aids to reduce the tendency for lift.
It is a known fact by anyone driving their Goblin at higher speed, who has the hood and side panels installed, the front end gets very light - lift. So it is a good idea to help mitigate that lift with a splitter or wing to provide some down force.
Granted the wing on a Goblin is located in the rear of the car mounted behind a lot of dirty aerodynamics - passenger seats, engine accessories, etc. - and only the very ends of the wing will have any down force effect. Where I have chosen to mount my wing is in the clean air above the car and directly over the center of mass to create actual down force that will be effective. When I add in the front aerodynamic aides to the front of my Goblin there will be far less lift from the body panels and a more stable front end at speed.
Yes, wings look cool, but they can also help to keep your Goblin planted on the road.

 

[SACTX]

I agree Tim!

That is exactly why I added the splitters and the front pan the way that I did. It is much more stable at highway speed with the splitters then it was without them.

That is more about the front end but any kind of down force will help a car that is lifting.

 

[G Atsma]

True if it is just the tubes exposed to aerodynamic forces. As soon as you add body panels to the tubes it can create lift, since the air is forced over the top of the body panels and slows down. Unless you have a car like Ross' - purely a tube frame - there becomes a need for aerodynamic aids to reduce the tendency for lift.
It is a known fact by anyone driving their Goblin at higher speed, who has the hood and side panels installed, the front end gets very light - lift. So it is a good idea to help mitigate that lift with a splitter or wing to provide some down force.
Granted the wing on a Goblin is located in the rear of the car mounted behind a lot of dirty aerodynamics - passenger seats, engine accessories, etc. - and only the very ends of the wing will have any down force effect. Where I have chosen to mount my wing is in the clean air above the car and directly over the center of mass to create actual down force that will be effective. When I add in the front aerodynamic aides to the front of my Goblin there will be far less lift from the body panels and a more stable front end at speed.
Yes, wings look cool, but they can also help to keep your Goblin planted on the road.

Then any wing should be over the front. Most of the ones I have seen here have it over or BEHIND the rear axle which would actually LIFT the front.
Sounds more like a vanity/looks thing....

 

[Brett]

Then any wing should be over the front. Most of the ones I have seen here have it over or BEHIND the rear axle which would actually LIFT the front.
Sounds more like a vanity/looks thing....

But **** it looks good

 

[SACTX]

Then any wing should be over the front. Most of the ones I have seen here have it over or BEHIND the rear axle which would actually LIFT the front.
Sounds more like a vanity/looks thing....

good call on that. I’m just gonna have to go with vanity from now on then

 

[CaptFrank2001]

Wrap - 1st attempt at doing a wrap (fender only) & it came out pretty good. Just don't like the color so it has to come off.

 

[Desert Sasqwatch]

Frank, does that wrap need a white base coat? Sometimes the black base coat doesn't do some wraps justice.

 

[CaptFrank2001]

Frank, does that wrap need a white base coat? Sometimes the black base coat doesn't do some wraps justice.

I didn't see anything about the base coat affecting the wrap. The one shade of red in the wrap was just too much of an Orange color rather than a true red color.

 

[CaptFrank2001]

Wrap. Well I finally settled on a color. Avery SW9000, Burgundy on the inside (matches the frame) & 3M Jumbo Vampire Red Camo. Came out decent for my first effort at doing a wrap.

 

[Ark :D]

Nice job Frank, that looks great!

 

[Zoom Zoom]

Nice job Frank, that looks great!

Your the first one to wrap the inside Looks great, Does that mean I see the DMV in the near future

 

[CaptFrank2001]

Your the first one to wrap the inside Looks great, Does that mean I see the DMV in the near future

Thank you. "First one" ..... hey I'm a trend setter. Yes, won't be long now. Once the wrap is done I will look into a professional 4 wheel alignment. Then I will have run out of excuses not to get it registered.

 

[k.rollin]

Your the first one to wrap the inside Looks great, Does that mean I see the DMV in the near future

I don't know about him being the first; mine were wrapped satin black on the inside to match my firewall, front bulkhead, and floor back in August. I got the idea from someone else here too, so we're all cribbing ideas from each other.

 

[CaptFrank2001]

Still need to do a 4 wheel alignment & I am going to change the wrap to another pattern. But getting close.